Is this thing on? (aka, Dreamwidth)

[dr4b]

I have been futzing around with Dreamwidth on and off for the last week or two. It turns out I was using such an archaic LJ style that pretty much nothing really looks like that anymore. I found something relatively close, though.

I still don't quite understand how things work between the two (ie, do I need to still use LJ to read LJ friends? And, if I post this here on DW, will there also be a post on LJ, or will it just exist here? (And if the former, not the latter, then why bother moving at all?)

Right now my DW import gave friends access to basically everyone who had friends access on LJ, but I'm thinking that only 1/7 of you are still honestly out there, so trying to figure out whether to just unfriend anyone who hasn't posted to LJ since, say, 2013? Not sure what makes sense there. I also know that some people have LJ accounts just to read friends pages and don't post themselves, so that might also be hard to evaluate.

I need to look into LJ archiving tools too. This is such a weird project in some ways. Sometimes I wonder if organizing digital journals is actually any easier than organizing paper journals.

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[cmdr_zoom]

*waves*
I'm still out here. I post to DW and it auto-crossposts to my LJ.

(Starhawk from Y!PP, of long enough ago that you may well have forgotten.)

[blk]

You still need to use LJ to read LJ friends, afaict. If you post on DW, you can crosspost to LJ or not. You can allow comments on LJ or not. The crossposting is pretty good, in fact, so edits you make here will propagate properly and such. I have readers on both, so for now I'm just crossposting.

I went through LJ last year and unfriended everybody who hadn't touched it in over, I think 2 years (looking for the later or when they last posted plus last time I saw a comment from them, thanks to gmail archive searching). I re-added only one in like 200 who was reading but hadn't commented or posting in that long.

[dr4b]

Do you end up with weird fragmented discussions if people make the same comments on both places? Do you find that LJ people even bother commenting on your stuff on DW at all?

I'm still trying to figure out, also, the "my data is now on Russian servers" factor and what that means in terms of crossposting.

[blk]

Yes and no. It does mean commenting is fragmented. In general, people seem to be reading either LJ or DW but not both. When I created a DW reading list I went ahead and removed those people from my LJ reading list.

If I ever find that the number of LJ comments drops down low enough, I'll probably stop crossposting.

[jeliza]

I just migrated myself (more worried about LJ destabilizing since they are apparently bleeding paid members, particularly in Russia.) but cross-post back. And my favorite fan forum is on LJ, so I can't see myself leaving unless omona goes under.

In terms of adjusting, DW will have given read access to your friends via their LJ openid, but I haven't yet seen a way to tell it that an LJ openid matches up with a DW account, so anyone who is now over hear wouldn't have access to locked entries if they are logged in as their DW selves.

I used the "ljarchive" application to make a backup of everything, but still haven't figured out how I would then get the info back out of it in an actually useful way.

[cellio]

There isn't a way to tell DW to match up an LJ OpenID with a corresponding DW account. So people who come to DW using the LJ OpenID account can read your stuff (if you haven't removed the LJ ID) and can comment, but can't post. Meanwhile, if those same people come to DW and use their DW accounts, they won't have access unless you grant it.

For example, when you imported you got cellio.livejournal.com on your list. I'm posting this as cellio (native DW), so cellio.LJ's privs don't mean anything.

What I'm doing is this: when I find a native DW account for someone I know from LJ, I subscribe and grant access for that account and then I drop the LJ account. I figure people with DW accounts are going to use them, like I do, and would only log in here using an LJ account if either they don't have DW accounts or they do but people haven't added them.

If you want to read LJ, you need to go there and log in. Once the dust settles, I'm going to drop (on LJ) the people who migrated here and are cross-posting -- I don't need to see those posts twice.

Looks like you got the cross-posting sorted out.

[meganursula]

I am here - but I didn't see a message asking me to give you access like i did with a few other people.

I think you have to cross post deliberately. Haven't tried it yet.

[chamois.livejournal.com]

I'm still here too. I hadn't realized people were mass migrating to an LJ clone.

[dr4b]

It's funny! At first I was like, ok, I don't feel comfortable with all my data being in Russia. But now with the new US administration, I'm not even sure I feel comfortable with all my data being in the US!

Life is weird.